Monday, December 19, 2005


Hello, friends,

Below is an intense passage that shows how we are to be willing and able to submit to Jesus' deep healing of ourselves in order for us to be part of the One who really does the ministering to others. Not everyone is always ready for this kind of submission. Remember, though, that God respects our defenses and will not force his ministrations on us. We should respect others in the same way. As you read how Christ wants to cleanse each of us, realize that this scene is the Passover "Last Supper" and Jesus already knows Judas has been corrupted by the Evil One, putting into higher gear Jesus' journey to the Cross. He took time with his disciples for this at such a moment.

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Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from God and was returning to God; 4so he got up from the meal, took off his outer clothing, and wrapped a towel around his waist. 5After that, he poured water into a basin and began to wash his disciples' feet, drying them with the towel that was wrapped around him.

6He came to Simon Peter, who said to him, "Lord, are you going to wash my feet?"

7Jesus replied, "You do not realize now what I am doing, but later you will understand."

8"No," said Peter, "you shall never wash my feet."
Jesus answered, "Unless I wash you, you have no part with me."

John 13:3-8 NIV





...be glad in it.

This has nothing to do with anything previously said or any relevant topic at all (except worship itself!), but I want to share something with you.

This has been an extremely busy December for me, and thus my family. There have been many mornings when it'll hit me that, "Oh, I've got [this and that] to take care of today, and then I've got to talk to [this and that person] about [this or that], and then I've got to rehearse for [whatever is coming up], and then..." -- just the busyness of the day staring me straight in the face (and laughing an evil laugh). So I'll be going about my morning, and then I'll hear my just-three-year-old Caleb singing his current favorite song: "This is the day, this is the day, that the Lord has made, that the Lord has made. We will rejoice, we will rejoice, and be glad in it, and be glad in it..." The simplicity of that song sung by a young boy, the simplicity of its message, and the simplicity of the truth that God, our Creator, our Abba, never leaves us or forsakes us, is something that God uses (almost) daily to change my attitude and remind me of his love for me and his wonderful healing presence.

I'm thankful for this day, and and I hope you are, too.

Sunday, December 18, 2005

Powerful message!

Hola amigos, and I hope everyone is well. Marilyn, I enjoyed reading your post and viewing the accompanying picture.

I know that we are the "WAG", but my thoughts today center primarily on the sermon. Aren't the sermon and service inextricably intertwined?

I've thought a lot over the years about the balance in worship service between "light" and "heavy" -- serious and somber, heady and joyful, joy and sorrow, reverence and relaxation, etc. We've talked about this a lot in our meetings. And, in the past, a perceived imbalance in this has been the source of much personal frustration with the church.

Today, I thought, had an excellent balance between the two extremes. Mark's sermon was direct, hard-hitting, to the point, and meaningful. It had me thinking and praying hard about how the message of Galatians impacts my life. Likewise, it had the same effect on the two people around me (my wife and a 19 year old).

At the same time, I laughed a lot during the service and sermon. I didn't feel entertained, just relaxed and enjoying it. The humor and lightness didn't seem "programmed" or designed to loosen the crowd up; it came across as a natural reflection of Nat and Mark's relaxedness up front. (For example, Nat had that little background ditty going while the kids were taking an hour to leave the stage. Also, during the sermon, Mark said a number of unobtrusively funny things.)
None of this took away from the reverence and focus on God. Yeah!! I was so psyched, and I hope we can pursue this effective balance, avoiding straying to either extreme.

See you guys soon I hope,
Walker

Monday, December 12, 2005

In Lieu of Email


Here is an elaboration on my brief email response to previous conversations on healing:

I simply don't see the church being a healing place as a redefinition. The Ann Landers reference, "Church is not a museum for saints, but a hospital for sinners," helped me when I was younger to tolerate the "perfect" people at church. When you consider that Jesus did more healing than any other work while he was walking around here in the flesh, how else could his ministry through the Holy Spirit be? I have, and do, experience healing by God's power and love all the time, including while worshipping at CHBC. He is the only healer.

In the recent conversations about this I sense a kind of anxiety about how we do church. There are churches that I know of, that have weekly healing services that specifically address the injuries, illnesses and pain of body, mind and soul. Do we want to introduce something like that into worship at CHBC? I've done a bit of reading on healing. It is something that can be led. There are forms used for a broad congregation that are powerful, but not quite as personal as imaging and meditations, the latter not always being comfortable for some folks. I had a copy of one congregational prayer, but couldn't find it in my stacks of paper.

This summer I sang in the Duke Chapel choir with Nelson. One morning I realized that something was missing there that is very commonly found at CHBC. I called it to Nelson's attention. He completely agreed and we both thought back on other churches we've attended that also had, other than in the pastor's office, a lack of this one element. You know what it was? It was Kleenex! CHBC has more boxes of Kleenex around than any buildings I've been in except funeral homes and hospitals. Our read on that is not that other churches are insensitive to the emotional needs of struggling congregants, but that the Bible Church might just have more emotionally fragile and needy people there. Remembering this anecdote after writing the first couple of paragraphs was kind of like zooming out in perspective about why this topic seems so urgent to the group. Something to ponder.

For me, some of the most profound healing I experience is singing in worship.

Regards,

Marilyn

My heart and flesh sing for joy to the living God. Psalm 84:2

Sunday, December 04, 2005

December 4th

Howdy y'all --

Thanks for all the interesting posts. Nat, I read that article you attached. It had uncanny connections to the events and themes of the service today. In fact, Sr. del Cruz seemed to be talking exactly about that -- turning church from a hotel to a hospital (Katherine and I even came up with an exciting new name for the CHBC: The Gospital!!). His message, and the direction of the sermon, is exactly the sort of exciting move towards following Christ's teaching more authentically that we all need! Lord, shake us out of our complacency and open our eyes to your truth, love, courage, and grace.

A friend brought up an important point after the service: in the past, he has not been so keen on bringing others to our hospital. He has not been too excited about the healing and the medicine it has offered. I appreciated his candor and blunt honesty, and I think that considering such things is crucial if we want to truly be more like a hospital. Are we committed to do what it takes to be welcoming and seeking of the outcasts and rejects? I have to search myself and decide -- because church would look very different if we were seeking the lost to bring in and offer God's healing. I'm daunted by that idea but encouraged that it doesn't, of course, have to be about me. It's, duh, about God (I always forget that)! If the Bible says one thing clearly, it's that through God, all things are possible.

So I offer that question, if you want to respond: What would our church have to do to be more and more like a hospital than a hotel?

Adios!

PS Wow, that "Deliverer" song was extraordinary.

Walker

Thursday, December 01, 2005

The Missional Church

Hey, kids. I thank Andrew and Walker for their thoughts, and I'm excited to hear (read?) the thoughts of others!

There is another element that will very much direct where the worship ministry (and the whole church) is headed. The elders have been asking themselves what it means for CHBC to be what some would call a "missional church". There are very early stages of discussion among leadership right now about this, but I want to put that seed in the WAG's heads right now. In a lot of ways, "missional" is what every Christian community should be anyway, but there are many of those communities that have turned inward and forgotten the mission of Christ (which is now theirs) to bring his kingdom and his love to the world.

Mark Acuff gave the elders a copy of an article written by Tim Keller, a Presbyterian pastor in NYC, called simply, "The Missional Church". I would love you all to read it. It's not too long, as you can see. He does a good job of listing some practical steps for churches to regain/retain their mission. Please post any thoughts you have! Thanks.

[Andrew: I know you said you'd post this article, but I'm doing it before you. Ha ha.]

Love you guys.

Walker - Thanks

Thanks for putting some thought to it! Great start to the discussion. I will email your blog to Michelle as I am not sure she is able to access this. I am still looking forward to seeing her draft of our mission statement, and I think it is a great opportunity for collaboration. Can everyone to have a stab?

I wanted to add one thought. We do want to "empower" Nat in conducting the Sunday morning service, but I think there is an irony here. I think the best way to empower Nat is to help him empower the body.

There is a history and context that has led to leadership responsibilities being very concentrated at the CHBC. Another discussion....I think that our number one task is helping Nat and the worship leadership in general to find ways to allow all those anointed with the power of the Holy Spirit to be "unleashed". I think this means really rethinking Nat's role, so in addition to being a very active and skilled "conductor" of the morning service he also becomes an even better administrator and facilitator of others. Through sharing responsibilities, targetting those with gifts that Nat does not have, the "worship leadership", represented by a larger body, can be more effective and comprehensive.

I had a very moving conversation with a pastor of a new church that is starting up. He stated his "mission" very simply with tears in his eyes, (I believe an overflowing of the Love of Christ), "I just want to pour myself into this body".

What would pouring ourselves into the body look like? That's what we are trying to figure out. But for me I think it will be happening when there are even more people leading, planning services, a wider variety of people doing solos, "videos", dancing, praying,administering, whatever.

Couple visuals:

I do not see us just circling Nat,(although that will happen at times)... I see Nat strengthening the circle with our help, surrounding the body.

I also get the picture of a barn dance, with everyone yehawing, not a few folks on stage and everyone looking at them. I know somewhat naive and idealistic, but something to shoot for.

Little bit stream of conscience...sorry.

God is Amazing.

Love you all.

Sunday, November 20, 2005

I'm actually posting something...a bonified miracle

Howdy, y'all...great meeting today. I'm really enjoying getting to know all of you; this is a great opportunity.

So I jotted down a quick "mission" or "vision" statement" (or whatever you want to call it), in response to Michelle and others' comments.
"The WAG seeks to...
...direct, advise, and empower the CHBC worship leadership (in particular, Nat) as to how to conduct the Sunday morning services in a way that worships God and experiences and expresses His love in the most genuine, relevant, and authentic way we can."
Whaddya think?

Observations on this morning's service:
The 23rd psalm remix sure was wonderful and special.

The sermon was powerful, I thought -- to the point, hard-hitting, and relevant. Regarding the video: I laughed heartily, as I do with most of the videos we show. I used to love making videos like that one for Campus Crusade when I was at UNC, so I particularly appreciate the humor and cleverness of the production. I thought that Mark also did a good job of quickly connecting it back to his main point, so I didn't feel distracted by the humor for too long.

My questions are these: How much do videos like that really contribute to the message? What's the purpose, and is it effective in achieving it? How much do we gain from such an effort? Is it worth the time and effort put into it? Even though this was done effectively, are there any negative side effects, such as the ever-present danger of turning the worship service into a performance or production? Do people like me just need to loosen up?

These questions are not rhetorical -- I really do not know the answer to them and haven't formed a clear opinion.

Thanks! Walker

Tuesday, November 08, 2005

Next Meeting

I plan to be there Sunday the 20th. Don't know if I will have a car, so can't commit to lunch run at this time. Looking forward to seeing you all. Is our person from the original founders' group aware and willing to join us?

M

Friday, October 07, 2005

nov 21 next meeting

Marilyn...my mistake. How does the 21st work for everyone. If not we will start looking at an evening during the week prior to the 21st.

Thanks all.

Meeting

As I said in the last meeting, the first two weekends of November I am not available due to the Orange County Artists Guild Open Studio Tour. Perhaps the third Sunday would work.

Thank you, Andrew.

Marilyn

Thursday, October 06, 2005

Next meeting


I would like to suggest Nov 13th for the next Wagfest. Please confirm on this blog if this date is workable.

Marilyn ....I will ask Nat to look into the spam. The woodcut is from a series of 12 that I did for the Easter Festival two years ago. I'll download a couple more. They are all done in Photoshop.

Tuesday, October 04, 2005

Untitled

Has anyone asked Blogger how come we are getting spammed?

Andrew, would you tell us please who made the woodcut?

But thanks, thanks,..... thanks be to God who giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ!

M

Friday, September 30, 2005

Agenda Summary






















Worship Advisory Group Meeting - October 2nd
Begin 12:30 Wrap up by 2:30

1. Prayer

2. Reality check.
-Are we focussing on the right issues?

3. Broadening Participation
- Update from Nat on Worship Community Initiative
- Feedback from group
- Lay leadership assistance


4. A Call to "Contemplation"
- Elements
- Ways to implement
- Lay leadership assistance

5. Strengthening and Encouraging Diversity.
- Is the body well represented?
- Lay leadership assistance
- Other tools, ideas

6. Feedback Mechanism
- WAG participation

7. Administration
- Next meeting date
- summary of action list
-lunch volunteer
-minutes volunteer


8. Prayer

Thursday, September 22, 2005

agenda for next meeting

Greetings,

The time spent thinking about some of the broader issues was very beneficial, in that it has highlighted some of the important issues that we can start to take "action" on. Moving into a more practical phase, we want to do two things... strengthen the positives and respond to any negatives. Here are a couple items on my list. Please let's brainstorm:

1. There was consistent feedback from several independant sources that our service needed the contemplative elements on a more regular basis. I suggest we spend some time identifying those service elements that fall into this presently vague category and also discuss how often these elements need to appear. For example do we advise that silent prayer occur every week, every month? Scripture reading? Communion? Confession?

2. With "broader participation" as one of our stated goals it seems obvious to me that some structures need to be put in place to facilitate this. Nat presented the idea of the "worship community" as a way to break down the more exclusive participation of those with worship leading/artisitc gifts. With potentially more participants in leading worship it seems obvious that administrative responsibilities will be increased. I am recommending that someone with administrative strengths be identified who can assist Nat in the task of resource mangement.

These are a few ideas of some of the tasks that could provide assistance:


- compile a list of those in the “worship community” phone numbers, emails etc.
-Schedule participants to allow for reasonable advance notice in making plans for practices and Sunday mornings.

-Keep track of who does what and when so opportunities can be distributed in a fair and equitable manner.

Other ideas to help broaden and maintain participation?

3. We have also confirmed over the last couple months that the CHBC is a body that is very diversified in worship style preferences. This diversity and richness is a strength and can be compared to a beautiful tapestry with many colors and patterns. Some have a deep passion for hymns, some love contemporary music, some really connect with a good dramatic presentation. It is very clear to me that one of our responsibilities as the Worship Advisory Group is to identify the worship style preferences unique to the CHBC and recommend approaches to service planning that respond to these preferences in an effective and equitable manner. Here are a few ideas open for discussion:

- Make sure that the broad interests of the body are well represented in the worship advisory core group. (Mary Fran has been recommended by several as a well qualified candidate to represent some of the interests of the Heritage Group. I am recommending that we invite her to participate. Is there somone from the youth group that could assist in broadening representation?)

- Compile a "worship resource book" that can be used as a planning guide. The book will be a proactive way of increasing the likelihood of diversity and breadth in services. This "guide" will be compiled with the assistance of the Worship Advisory Group members that represent the varied interests of the body. (see first idea) This guide will not just have songs, but perhaps other worship elements that we think will bring richness and variety to our worship experience.

- Identify those gifted leaders that very naturally, through their own unique passions and sensibilities, will bring variety and richness to worship at the CHBC. I would also recommend that these alternate worship leaders are scheduled, (ie. every fourth week), and that their responsibilities include not just the actual leading on the Sunday, but assist in the planning of the service as well.

- provide a feedback process for service plans (before and after the service), as a way to broaden sensitivity to the whole body. I am not sure that everyone on the WAG needs to do this at the same time, but I would like to create some structure to this feedback process.

Again, these are just some ideas, intended to get the discussion flowing, so please feel free to agree or disagree, add or subtract.


All for now.

In His Amazing Grace

Andrew

Sunday, September 11, 2005

Observations on Sept. 11th service

So I had some thoughts during Sunday's service. Now that we have been talking about worship, it's on my brain, so most of what I see passes through that filter now. I don't think that our commenting on each service as as sort of approval poll is a good idea, so I don't offer these thoughts as any such thing. Instead, these thoughts are just lines of thinking that interested me.

We talked at the meeting about the importance of making space in the service for reverence and time to encounter God and his holiness. There was also discussion about the place for light-heartedness and fun. We discussed the balance between having fun (as joy in the presence of God) and also preserving reverence for people to truly encounter God's forgiveness and have His word speak in their lives and situations. I felt that, thanks to God, the service this week struck that balance nicely.

I am usually turned off by wackyish skits; they tend to feel like entertainment to me. For some reason, this week, it didn't feel that way. I laughed and enjoyed the hilarious video (I always enjoy them), but somehow it seemed a part of worship, not an entertaining side-show to bring people in. I don't know what the difference was; it was probably just me and my changing moods and attitude. Maybe it was the way Scott Vermillion came forward so directly and earnestly afterwards. His message was plain, simple, and truthful; I didn't feel at all like he was tring to convince the college crowd that CHBC is a hip place.

I felt the same way about SpencerAcuff. Their song was wonderfully performed, but they were so simple in their presentation (again, I didn't feel like I was being entertained) that I found myself focusing on the words and feeling God's truth in them.

Mark's sermon had a driven feel to it as well. Of course, the Katrina circumstances played a large part in that. Tragedies and crises help to cut through the haze in which we (or I, at least) live most of our lives. I like it when preachers come at me straight, spare no punches, and just preach God's truth to me in a way that cuts me. Regardless of how fun and funny the anecdotes are, the message should always come right back to the plain truth, I think.

The worship team seemed to share this great balance of light-heartedness and reverence this week as well. The songs were potent and beautiful, and they pushed me towards singing to God (as the Psalms tell us to do).

It's a bit weird of me to feel this way, but I'm always annoyed when we clap in church for a performance. It's not that I don't want the performer to feel appreciated; I just think that, especially in church, it should be clear that the person on stage isn't singing for us; she's singing to God. I feel more appreciate to the purpose of the song when I reverently and silently honor it as a gift not to me but God.

Thus, I thought it was a neat, God-honoring service that balanced between somewhat serious reverence and ebullient joy. I'm sure that many were praying for it to be that way. I like to think that God blessed those prayers and gave our leaders what they needed to honor His name.

So, there are my thoughts, mostly unrefined or edited, on recent worship. Is that what we are supposed to be doing on this blog?

PS On a completely practical note, did anyone think that all of the audio was very loud? Both my wife and I felt that the volume was quite piercing to the ears.

-- Walker Hicks

Tuesday, August 30, 2005

August 28 Meeting Follow Up

A very heartfelt thanks for the great thought and energy that went into the dialogue on Sunday. What is amazing to me is that very similar ideas and recurring themes came to the table independently. To me this indicates the Holy Spirit is speaking, bringing confirmation of God's will. Meetings with much disagreement, or disparate views seems to indicate more individual agendas.

Please continue to pray for the next few days as I try to capture what was said on paper (or computer). I really want the content of the conversation to be a guide for some more practical application as to how we worship at the Bible Church.

Please also begin to pray for adding members to the Worship Advisory group, if that is something that God truly wants. Can we pray for discernment, that the impulse to add is out of love and a true desire to care more completely for the body, and not "church politics".

Please also pray for how we can best serve the body. Do we continue to quietly serve behind the scenes, which I think is a very compelling option, or is there any benefit, and edification that would come from being more visible and accessible? The motive for being more visible should be similar to the one that led to the introduction of all the elders to the congregation months ago. If someone in the congregation needs help of any sort, they know who they can talk to. There may be benefit in just knowing who is serving on the WAG so that they can be prayed for.

Appreciate your thoughts on these items. I will be coordinating our next meeting time in the next few days via email. Thanks again everybody.

Tuesday, August 09, 2005

Outtahere

Kids:

I am going out of town for two weeks. I will see you all when I get back from the Left Coast. Andrew, that looks like a good agenda for the gathering on the 28th. Thanks. I am excited for us to share people's remarks about worship at the Bible Church. I've had some good conversations myself.

Love you guys.

Friday, August 05, 2005

Worship Community

I really think this is an excellent idea. Denise also talked to me about it. I liked the idea then, I like it now. As one of our mandates was to broaden participation, I really think this format will help. I would add that the advantages of having broader participation, and a growing sense of community far outweights the advantages of tighter, smoother, better rehearsed music on Sunday morning because of set groups. My opinion, for what it is worth.

Couple other items that I would like to propose. We have a meeting coming up. I would like suggest this as an agenda.

1. Feedback from the congregation - compile a list of main positives and negatives. Please everyone have research prepared, in written form.
2. Discuss what practical things can be done to strengthen/maintain positives and respond to negatives.
3. Discuss the possibility of a more elder member being included on the team - pro's and con's.
4. Discuss the idea of the worship community. Nat would you be willing to flush out some of the details for the meeting and present. I can ask Denise for some of the correspondence she recieved from the church in Madison, that she was referring to.
5. Discuss progress made in dialogue with the teaching Team. Nat, have you had any further conversance with Mark on this matter?
6. Other items deemed important?

Wednesday, August 03, 2005

New Topic...

Hi.

Even though we've quasi-decided (for now) to focus more on macro-philosophical type stuff and less on pragmatics, I want to get your take(s) on something.
As many of you know, we now employ a worship team format for musicians on Sunday mornings. We have three teams, all of whom have "core" instruments of guitar, piano, bass, drums, and some vocalists. There are also others not on teams that come and fill in, usually either as a substitute or additional instruments (violin, cello, brass ensemble, etc.). I have been doing a lot of thinking about this format for the worship ministry -- its structure, cohesion, sense of community, etc. -- and I have some observations.
I feel that structure of the worship teams has broken down a bit (e.g., what has been known as "Team Page", led by Branson/Cristy, has been severely hobbled by the SpencerAcuff tour circuit, and by brand new Caroline Rebecca Page, bless her little heart!!) and are in need of revamping. However, I do not believe the solution is a restructuring of teams. I have been more and more drawn to the idea of a 'worship community'. A year or so ago, Denise Stillwell cited something like this going on at a church she knew of. I think there is some great potential for a group like that: to kinda have one large worship team that all know each other (to an extent) and all have the plausibility of working with each other at some point (rather than a team of 5-7 that only participates with each other; this too has advantages, of course, which is why we employed it in the first place). This larger group would meet on a regular basis, whether it's once a month, or every other, or every three, etc., and have a wonderful time of sharing, praying, worshipping, and community-building. The group would include visual artists, dancers, and other "non-musician" worship folks as well. From this larger group would be drawn each week's music team. This also means that we are not "limited" to having a full piano/guitar/bass/drum band every week, which is what the "old" teams often, by default, would be. We could have the freedom of doing a lot more mixing and matching of people as well as more variety of groups and instrumentations, which would really help to expand the repertoire and worship language of us on the team and those in the congregation.

What do you think of this? I am very aware of the challenges and benefits to both of these formats, and welcome comment and suggestions. Thanks...

Tuesday, August 02, 2005

It was the royal "we".
You said WE'RE being silly. Is that what you meant to say?
I believe that the teaching team is called the Teaching Advisory Group -- TAG. How's WAG? Here are some other possiblities:

WALT: Worship Advisory Leadership Team
WHAT: WorsHip Advisory Team
NEWT: Nat's Enigmatic Worship Team
DAWG: Da Awesome Worship Group

Alright, now we're just being silly.

Monday, August 01, 2005

Response to Service

Greetings all,

Wanted to say that Sunday Service was very uplifting and nourishing for me. Thanks Holy Spirit, for opening my heart, ears and eyes. Thanks Nat for putting your heart into it.

One small update on the teaching/worship coordination front. I wanted to report that I have talked with both Bill Cobey, the Teaching team chair, and with Mark Acuff and communicated that we were praying for them, and that it seemd to make alot of sense for the two groups to be in closer dialogue.

I also communicated that we are starting off our group by collectively thinking about some fundamental questions, before we get into some more practical concerns. I gave the example of asking the basic question "Who is God". I reasoned if we are to worship God in spirit and truth we really need to continue deepening and expanding our knowledge and appreciation of God's complex nature. Being more articulate and precise in our understanding will really help inform "how we worship". I suggested that teaching can really help in this goal.

I elaborated:

If God is a Holy God our response should be one of reverence
If God is a Forgiving God our response should be one of sorrow and repentance
If God is a Redeeming God our response should be one of Joy and Celebration
Others?....

It was interesting to me that Bill and his team have also been trying to take the pulse of the congregation and came up with a similar observation; that we are really good at the celebration part but that there is a desire to also be finding ways to express reverence and repentance on a more regular basis.

Please all continue to pray for unity between Teaching and Worship.

As a parting thought, A song that was sung on Sunday made me think about the importance of worshiping with deep knowledge of the Truth, and how teaching and worship are so inextricably linked. Wambui sang a beautiful song that for the most part provided much encouragement to me about the faithfulness and unfailing love of Jesus. There was one line, however, that simply did not ring true, and I thought..."we need teaching". The line stating that "(Jesus) will follow me wherever I go" to me is not a completely accurate description of how God responds to us. I may be wrong here but it is my understanding that we have the choice to walk away from God, and go to places that He cannot go, because of His holy nature. There we get to taste death. The example of the Prodigal Son comes to mind. The Father waited and searched from the hill, but did not go into the pig pen with His beloved but rebellious Son. The relationship was redeemed when the prodigal Son repented and turned back to the Father. Grace abounded upon the Son's return.

Churches seem to fall somewhere in a spectrum of being Grace focussed, sometimes to a fault and comprimising truth, and overlooking some of the harder truths that Jesus communicated, and Law focussed, being more legalistic in nature and minimizing grace. My prayer is that the Holy Spirit blesses our Church with discernment, so we can Woship God in spirit and truth.

Love you all.

P.S. The Teaching team I believe calls themselves an "Advisory Committee". I am going to suggest, to facilitate unity, we call ourselves something similar. Nat could you ask Mark about their title?

Debbie...thanks for following through on the interviews. I will be eager to hear your conclusions. In addition to deliberate interviews I would also encourage keeping track of some of the more informal dialogues, where folks don't know they are being "interviewed". I have some good feedback.

Wednesday, July 27, 2005

Finally

...something I can respond to without having to dig out my Martin Buber or Kierkegaard. Yes, it's a show, Nat, like any presentation that takes planning and rehearsal. Every church service I've been to has been that. It's what the show is about that matters. This is one where the focus is on Jesus Christ with overt corporate worship of Him and proclamation of Holy Scripture. It's not the same as a Rolling Stones concert or a local theater production or an infomercial.

Marilyn

P.S. It was very brave of you to ask that question.

Tuesday, July 26, 2005

...one mo'...

Here's a bold question - and I may not like the answers, but answer anyway:

Is the worship service at the Chapel Hill Bible Church a Show?

"Expectation"

That's a key word, Caleb. "Expectation" can be a wonderfully advantageous yet potentially dangerous thing. For example, if we have high expectations of our spouse or a friend or some other close relationship, and those expectations aren't met, we are very frustrated (they are human, after all). Expectations in the context of corporate worship are similar, and could manifest themselves in a couple of different ways (or more, but I'll mention two opposing ones). We could come expecting The Show up front to be top-notch, first-rate, and something that makes us "feel" a certain way, perhaps without us having to do a whole lot. We could also come expecting that God is going to do something today: meet us; speak truth to us; convict us; shower comfort, mercy, forgiveness, joy, love upon us. Sometimes (not always) I feel that more people fall into the first category than the second.

Why is it that many do not expect God to do anything when we meet to worship? Is there something we the leadership are (or aren't) doing that is preventing either God from moving or people from expecting Him to...or both??

Monday, July 25, 2005

Back to ya, Hodson

I really love your point about doing things together that cannot be done alone. That is something to truly consider. A certain Bible Church pastor's wife once told me a similar thing: that something different happens when we are all worshipping together than when we are alone. I interpret that as God doing something different, revealing Himself in a unique way, when we are gathered as a worshipping community.
I think we often forget that we really are a community of worshippers, not just in theory, but in actuality, and whether we feel like it or not. That's why, Caleb, I am glad to hear you say that knowing you are surrounded by other worshippers -- people gathered for presumably the same purpose -- is "extremely powerful" to you! How many times have we heard (or said!) "I didn't get anything out of worship today" or "I'm not really ever fed by [so-and-so's] sermons"?? I think We the Congregation would do well to have the attitude of "What is God going to do in our midst this morning?!" or "I pray that God works mightily in our community this morning". Certainly, Getting Myself Fed is something that happens on my own, thus I think corporate worship should serve a different, much broader purpose.
Thanks again, Caleb. Well said. Don't move to Connecticut.

Wednesday, July 13, 2005

Greetings Nat, Keith, Marilyn, Caleb, Debbie, Michelle, Gelin and Walker.

Thank you so much for your participation in the first meeting. I marvelled at how each person had a unique perspective or sensitivity that I have a hunch will lead to a very vibrant and colorful group. Many things were said, but these are some of the gems that I remember;

Michelle: Her prayer for us not to be "earnest" trying to do things by our own strength, but to surrender. I like the picture of us all coming up with great ideas of how things could and should be and then praying to God..."We cannot, but you can..."

Gelin: I just loved just listening to the sound of his voice, and the references to the first church. I like the idea of going to God's word and really understanding what was important to the first worshipers.

Debbie: Her sensitivity to the many who love the Church, have things to say but could potentially feel voiceless. It reminded me how important it was to ask for God to put in all our hearts a real love for the body and a heart to serve.

Caleb: ...awesome....the encouragement to see worship as a "way of life", every day, minute, second...I want to talk more about this.

Marilyn: A much needed sense of humor, bold and gentle prayers.

Thanks to all.

"Free-Flowing Praise": Psalm 95

Hey.

I have a book called The New Worship: Straight Talk on Music and the Church by a guy named Barry Liesch. In Chapter Three, he refers to a five-phase pattern of worship developed by Vineyard pastors John Wimber and Eddie Espinosa back in the 80's. [I think the intended context was corporate worship, but perhaps one should not rule out its potential usefulness in personal devotional time.] The five phases of their sequence are (1) invitation, (2) engagement, (3) exaltation, (4) adoration, and (5) intimacy.

They use as their basis the first seven verses of Psalm 95:

Invitation
Come, let us sing for joy to the lord; let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation, (v. 1)

Engagement
Let us come before him with thanksgiving and extol him with music and song. (v. 2)

Exaltation
For the lord is the great God, the great King above all gods. In his hand are the depths of the earth, and the mountain peaks belong to him. The sea is his, for he made it, and his hands formed the dry land. (vv. 3-5)

Adoration
Come, let us bow down in worship, let us kneel before the lord our Maker; (v. 6)

Intimacy
For he is our God and we are the people of his pasture, the flock under his care. (v. 7)


While I am quite wary of formula or prescription (though I don't see this as such), I believe that there is validity to this model and sequence. It has a natural rhythm to it. It should be noted that they did not develop this "system" and then plan their corporate worship accordingly, but rather, this pattern was an outgrowth of what was already happening (further proof that theory should always follow practice, not the other way around). And while we at the Bible Church do not rigidly follow a particular format or liturgy, there are times when I as a worship planner admittedly don't know where to start!! This is helpful in giving a modicum of biblical example/motivation/kick-start to designing a worship service in our paradigm.

By the way, if you'd like to check out Chapter Three in its entirety, click here.

Tuesday, July 12, 2005

Next Meeting


August 28 works for me.

Marilyn

Monday, July 11, 2005

this is only a test...

hi, nat. how are you? i'm fine -- thank you for asking. i'll see you around town, dawg.

==> n
Hello team/committee/group members,
Whether we identify ourselves as the Worship Support Team, Support Committee
for the Corporate Worship of the Chapel Hill Bible Church or People for the
People, I am thankful that we will have this opportunity to serve one
another and the body of the Chapel Hill Bible Church. May we humbly
continue.
I have a few thoughts to share with you, since our departure.
•Should we prayerfully consider having a representative of the 50/60+ cohort
group join this team?
•I forgot to give you all copies of the following two short essays. This
may be something for the Blog site, but thought to send it now. So, I’ll
recycle the paper and give it to you to print yourselves, if you desire.
Until later,
Peace to you
~debbie
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A SINGING FAITH
Authentic Christian faith is not merely believed. Nor is it merely acted
upon. It is sung-with utter joy sometimes, in uncontrollable tears
sometimes, but it is sung. "Words and music did for me what solid, even
rigorous, religious argument could never do, they introduced me to God, not
belief in God, more an experiential sense of GOD"- that's the way Bono, lead
singer of the band U2, puts it.
What is it about singing that takes us beyond mere belief or behavior?
Think of singing as a language that allows us to embody our love for our
Creator. Song is a means he has given us to communicate our deepest
affections, to have our thoughts exquisitely shaped, and to have our spirits braced for the boldest of obedience’s. Through music, our God draws
us deeper into a love affair with himself.
- Reggie Kidd, from WITH ONE VOICE: DISCOVERING CHRIST'S SONG IN OUR WORSHIP, Grand Rapids: Baker Books, forthcoming in October 2005. ISBN: 0801065917. For more information on Dr. Kidd and WITH ONE VOICE, visit www.rts.edu/kidd.

[WITH ONE VOICE has helped me to understand more deeply that our songs of
faith resonate most fully, most Christianly, when believing communities draw
on the strengths of high culture, folk culture, and popular culture. As I
grow in intimacy with the Savior, I see more clearly the joys and blessings
of deferring to the needs and aesthetic preferences of my brothers and
sisters within the body of Christ. Highly recommended.]
Have a great week,
Chip Stam
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Sometimes we must think that ours is the first generation to struggle with
style issues in Christian worship. Not so. Today's WORSHIP QUOTE is from
the pen of C. S. Lewis. Here the Oxford don and Christian apologist
reflects on the divide between those who appreciate and prefer church music
from the high art tradition and those who know only the music of the masses
and popular culture. The parallels to our current situations are not exact,
but the important lesson of Christian deference is clear-deference over
preference in the body of Christ.
AUTHOR'S DISCLAIMER: Lewis identifies himself as a layman and one who can
boast no musical education. He says, "I cannot even speak from the
experience of a lifelong churchgoer. It follows that Church Music is a
subject on which I cannot, even in the lowest degree, appear as a teacher.
My place is in the witness box. If it concerns the court to know how the
whole matter appears to such as I, I am prepared to give my evidence."

HIGH BROW AND LOW BROW MUSIC IN CHURCH
There are two musical situations on which I think we can be confident that a
blessing rests. One is where a priest or an organist, himself a man of
trained and delicate taste, humbly and charitably sacrifices his own
(aesthetically right) desires and gives the people humbler and coarser fare
than he would wish, in a belief (even, as it may be, the erroneous belief)
that he can thus bring them to God. The other is where the stupid and
unmusical layman humbly and patiently, and above all silently, listens to
music which he cannot, or cannot fully, appreciate, in the belief that it
somehow glorifies God, and that if it does not edify him this must be his
own defect. Neither such a High Brow nor such a Low Brow can be far out of
the way. To both, Church Music will have been a means of grace; not the
music they have liked, but the music they have disliked. They have both
offered, sacrificed, their taste in the fullest sense. But where the
opposite situation arises, where the musician is filled with the pride of
skill or the virus of emulation and looks with contempt on the
unappreciative congregation, or where the unmusical, complacently entrenched
in their own ignorance and conservatism, look with the restless and
resentful hostility of an inferiority complex on all who would try to
improve their taste-there, we may be sure, all that both offer is unblessed
and the spirit that moves them is not the Holy Ghost.
These highly general reflections will not, I fear, be of much practical use
to any priest or organist in devising a working compromise for a particular
church. The most they can hope to do is to suggest that the problem is
never a merely musical one. Where both the choir and the congregation are
spiritually on the right road no insurmountable difficulties will occur.
Discrepancies of taste and capacity will, indeed, provide matter for mutual
charity and humility.
- C. S. Lewis, "On Church Music" (1949) from CHRISTIAN REFLECTIONS, edited
by Walter Hooper. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1971 reprint, pp.96-97.
[I am sure that there are many saints in our churches who would agree with
another statement in this same essay. Lewis writes, "What I, like many other
laymen, chiefly desire in church are fewer, better, and shorter hymns;
especially fewer."]
Have a great week,
Chip Stam